tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post6735590880483266151..comments2024-03-28T03:17:34.514-04:00Comments on Ivy Book Bindings: On Old Hollywood, YA, and Love Triangles...Keertanahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01071392026876644282noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-83612366830075445532014-08-16T20:58:00.983-04:002014-08-16T20:58:00.983-04:00I am always impressed with the way your mind is co...I am always impressed with the way your mind is constantly on alert thinking an analyzing. I've watched and enjoyed many an old Hollywood movie, but I haven't really thought about them as you do. I definitely stand by my claim that triangles are much easier on film, but I never thought about why that was. But now I am. I think the reasons you say are very true, but also, when I watch a movie, I don't usually think about all the off screen things going on, and my mind paints a much fuller picture when I'm reading a book. I think if I read some of these stories in a book, I'd feel much more emotionally traumatized, instead of just enjoying them unfold. And the comedy aspects of the film also help to lighten the mood. However, I think that triangles in YA are often just contrived for tension, and they follow similar patterns, so much that it gets old quick. AND, you're right that they can drag out for several books, which is just too much. Philadelphia Story by comparison takes place over a much shorter time. I love that you're taking time to enjoy these movies before you go to college, and I love that you've latched onto Cary and attacked his work like the scholar you are. Makes me want to start watching old movies again. Lauren @ Love is not a trianglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388832613855107816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-11256139326480949242014-08-11T12:22:22.637-04:002014-08-11T12:22:22.637-04:00I LOVE The Philadelphia Story!!!
OK Basically yo...I LOVE The Philadelphia Story!!! <br /><br />OK Basically you need to watch any film with Cary Grant and Katherine Hepburn in - Bringing up Baby and Holiday are my favourites - not so much Sylvia Scarlett. <br /><br />Other good old time movies are The Ghost and Mrs Muir, The Shop Around the Corner, It Happened One Night, An affair to Remember...<br /><br />I think the main reason love triangles don't work so well in YA is because they are so cliche and frivolous. They're almost always accompanied by insta-love and as you say, the female protagonist looses all/any agency and suddenly becomes all about which boy she will end up with - which is almost always clearly signposted from the beginning. It makes for very dull reading.<br /><br />Amy @ Turn the PageAmy @ Turn the Pagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18394949917946925397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-31682227232125820122014-08-08T03:37:39.346-04:002014-08-08T03:37:39.346-04:00I love that you've been watching so many class...I love that you've been watching so many classic films (and Cary Grant specifically) lately! I'm a big, big fan of CHARADE and AN AFFAIR TO REMEMBER, as well as lesser known ones like ROOM FOR ONE MORE. I think the reasons you noted for love triangles being palatable on screen are good ones, although I feel like it's usually much more clearly telegraphed which one is the eventual winner if there is one. I can't even think of any recent love triangle examples on screen, except in films where they are romances/romance thrillers with a jealous husband.<br /><br />Wendy @ <a href="http://www.themidnightgarden.net/2014/08/ifistay.html" rel="nofollow">The Midnight Garden</a>Wendy Darlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13471461156849725177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-86005034501771426052014-08-07T16:41:34.774-04:002014-08-07T16:41:34.774-04:00I have never seen any of these (I know am an ignor...I have never seen any of these (I know am an ignorant fool and everything) but I really don't enjoy all school movies. I'm more for Marvel and Disney stuff. I'm still waiting to enter my "I love black and white movies" phase. Anyhow I was thinking about this and really you're right, movies don't have as much space as books and then again there are no sequels so yeah love triangle seems more logical somehow. Anyhow, these really sound great. Great post, Keertana :)Tanja - Tanychyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15084789780467257259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-15318440698906081392014-08-07T15:25:00.731-04:002014-08-07T15:25:00.731-04:00Wow. College in three weeks Keertana?! Best of luc...Wow. College in three weeks Keertana?! Best of luck with that! What are you going to do? <br /><br />Hmmm. I don't personally think love triangles will be forever doomed in young-adult literature, they just need to steer away from adding them in because they feel the need to add tension or conflict. I feel like if they didn't take up the plot line, but they were worked in, in a way that the main character progressed because of relations and was not led to make stupid decisions. <br /><br />However, I definitely think they tend to work better on the big screen. Something about them being acted out and usually, the actors inflecting the characters with their own style, usually helps to kind of give a better feel I think. <br /><br />These old classics definitely sound fantastic though! I like the sound of Notorious best, I have a little bit of a Hitchcock love after watching Rebecca, and just loving the whole black and white film. I am in definite need of more classic films, and I will be keeping my eyes peeled to get a hand on this. <br /><br />Great post! :) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-18998013553823811422014-08-07T15:18:40.777-04:002014-08-07T15:18:40.777-04:00I haven't seen any of these movies, but I migh...I haven't seen any of these movies, but I might just have to check them out! I have to agree that love triangles are much better in movies than in books, when they're well-done in movies that is. I guess I would count Pretty in Pink as one where I enjoyed it, as it's an amazing movie! And then X-men has a good one too. Wonderful post, Keertana! Very thought-provoking!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-50513650413623301682014-08-06T19:42:00.424-04:002014-08-06T19:42:00.424-04:00I forget how much I like Katherine Hepburn until I...I forget how much I like Katherine Hepburn until I watch one of her movies -- that woman was awesome. And, you're completely right. The triangle translates well on screen, versus being more eye-roll-worthy on the page. <br />On a side note, they don't have triangles but have you seen The Thin Man movies? Love the dynamics onscreen between the leading lady and her man.Mary @ BookSwarmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099395167194720599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-44741722357246593672014-08-06T16:32:51.535-04:002014-08-06T16:32:51.535-04:00You are so right about them being fine in movies i...You are so right about them being fine in movies in comparison to books. You also hit the nail on the head as to why! This is a brilly post and it is making me want to watch some classic films. :)Melissa (Books and Things)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00074452958853212024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-4701275804528434622014-08-06T15:01:17.889-04:002014-08-06T15:01:17.889-04:00I took a whole class on Hitchcock films, and yet I...I took a whole class on Hitchcock films, and yet I can't remember if I watched Notorious. I know I haven't seen either of the other two though. I think you're right that love triangles can work better in films because the time is limited. Of course, a lot of romantic comedies have love triangles and those can be a bit annoying because you KNOW who she will choose, you know? Besides that though, I think movies can do it better. Of course, I'd love to see more novels handle love triangles well and not just use the cliche for added drama or whatever. I can't think of any movies you NEED to see...I'd say some other Hitchcock would be great. I really love "Rope" and "Strangers on the Train." <br /><br />-LaurenShooting Stars Maghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16074581473656321052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-36634601687930495922014-08-06T13:18:02.832-04:002014-08-06T13:18:02.832-04:00I haven't watched either of these and I love o...I haven't watched either of these and I love old Hollywood! I need to watch these. Kindlemomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09084577342034704304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-3511378945828057442014-08-06T09:36:15.987-04:002014-08-06T09:36:15.987-04:00"Not only are love triangles in movies limite..."Not only are love triangles in movies limited by time, but they also don't feature cliffhangers or sequels. Instead, the tension is maintained for a bearable amount."<br /><br />YES! This. I can deal with love triangles in movies WAY better than I can in books, and you're so right, much of that is due to time. I know that by the end of the movie, a romantic decision will more than likely be made, so I don't have the same stress I do in books - wondering if the triangle that went away in book 2 might pop back up in book 4. Such a great post!Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-72497981054421735512014-08-06T04:08:18.348-04:002014-08-06T04:08:18.348-04:00Ha! I love any old movies, and Cary Grant is one o...Ha! I love any old movies, and Cary Grant is one of my favorite actors. Another one I've always loved is "Now, Voyager" with Bette Davis. It's an uncommon coming of age tale of a spinster (who is an adult), and plus, a scene of it was featured in another much newer, movie, P.S. I Love You. The best thing about old movies is the magnificent costumes, and Now Voyager (and the Philadelphia Story, as well) don't disappoint.Litha Nellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06350209887646891024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-5862401157611633172014-08-06T02:59:14.457-04:002014-08-06T02:59:14.457-04:00I never thought about it but they DO work for me i...I never thought about it but they DO work for me in movies. Strange, they just do, they work better. But then they work better for me in adult books too, than in YABlodeueddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03435479623560871881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523300192245025551.post-58834585528866461572014-08-06T00:19:22.900-04:002014-08-06T00:19:22.900-04:00Love triangles ALWAYS work better for me on screen...Love triangles ALWAYS work better for me on screen, Keertana. There's something about them that's a little less oppressive and a little more socially acceptable, in my opinion. I think my problem with it in novels is that the love triangle tends to overshadow the plot a lot, and in films, I find that it's more cleverly woven throughout the story - creating a better balance. I absolutely love your take on this, and I think it's awesome to see you dive so deep into it :)Melissa (i swim for oceans)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06840790603713851746noreply@blogger.com